Arizona for Internet Freedom

Top Priority for AZ: Set up Meetings

There aren't any public events yet, so the most important thing is to get meetings with Senators. Here's what you need to do:

  • Use this form or call (602) 840-1891 to meet with Senator Kyl, who has no public position on PIPA yet.
  • Call (602) 952-2410 to meet with Senator McCain, who is a co-sponsor of PIPA.

Be polite and professional, and request a meeting on behalf of Arizona for Internet Freedom (the folks in this forum) to discuss the PROTECT IP Act and SOPA.  Make it clear that you want to meet with the Senator during the January recess, and that you'll be bringing others from your group.  Have your calendar open when you call, so you can pick a time that works for you.  When finished, post a report-back. 

For example: "Hi, my name is ________, I'm with Arizona for Internet freedom, and I'm calling to request a meeting with Senator _______ during the January recess.  The PROTECT IP vote is happening on January 24th, and I wanted the Senator to understand my concerns before the vote happens."


IMPORTANT: If you do get a meeting, post another message. That way others can join you in your meeting.  If there's any other specific information we should include in this post, message us and we can add it. 

Comments

  • I requested a meeting.
  • Greetings everyone,

    I requested that Senator Kyl and I have an intelligent conversation before he cast his vote.
  • @ SebastianK and cmv925 When and where?
  • Requested a meeting before he votes on the bill
  • Meeting requested.
  • @sebastiank @cmv925 @markgjr @rndfloyd - Great work! As soon as any of you get responses, make sure to post here so that you can all organize a time, place, etc. 
  • I requested!

  • Meeting requested with Jon Kyl.
  • @CompactedPrism @Dr_Shoot42



    @Ryan1407 @rndfloyd @Markgjr @sebastiank @cmv925 can someone call to follow up and found out where all these requests are going?
  • If you all can't get a meeting leave this link for them to read on the form that explains the dangers of SOPA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM

    Note to admin: Having a link like that for senators/congressman to see that clearly outlines how dangerous this is would be a good thing since most of us aren't going to get meetings having something to educate them that is short and sweet would be good. 
  • I sent messages to both Senators Kyl and McCain through their websites asking for a meeting, sharing the video link, and expressing my concerns about these bills. I will report back if I hear anything. 
  • I sent messages to Ky and McCain as well. Gave them this link:

    Its a little more formal. 
  • I requested a meeting with John McCain, the lady said I had to do it in writing. I plan on dropping off a letter tomorrow at his office. 

  • Told to send a fax requesting the meeting.  I faxed the request to his office at 602-952-8702.  Here's what I put:

    Dear Senator McCain,

    I'm with Arizona for Internet freedom,
    and I'm calling to request a meeting with you during the
    January recess.  The PROTECT IP vote is happening on January 24th, and I
    wanted the Senator to understand my concerns before the vote happens.

    Thank you,

    Brig Burton
  • Requested.
  • If anybody actually gets scheduled a meeting please let us all know immediately so that we can all show up.
  • Requested. If anyone gets a meeting call me, 585 919 4459. I have a car and will gladly transport people.
  • It appears to me that our Senators do not wish to have a meeting with us and as Senator McCain is one of the cosponsors I can understand why he doesn't.  I'm not so sure why Senator Kyl is so reluctant.
  • The reason they don't want to have a meeting is because they are both Lame Duck senators that have been bought off by big money.  Just like McCain was bought on the Yavapai Hills Real Estate deal and NUMEROUS other actions.  They are both independently wealthy from the backs of the American people and have nothing but repulsion for each and every one of us.  Both, along with the rest in Congress and the Senate  should be tried for Sedition and Treason.
  • Dear America:
    I went ahead and posted the Stanford Video with both Senator Kyl and McCain asking them to watch it before they vote on January 24th.  I further requested a personal meeting with them to explain the downsides of the PIPA/SOPA bill.  I will post any responses I get and I will call in the morning to talk with each of them.  It's important to move forward with kindness and peace.  Anything else will built walls...not bridges.   There are no threats. Our personal happiness is not determined by what others do or don't do.

  • meeting urgently requested with senator kyle
  • Folks, something else you need to please be vigilant on -- the proper spelling of the names of Arizona's senators.  

    It is NOT "Senator Kyle" -- it's "Senator Kyl" -- there is NO "e" in his last name. 

    It is NOT "Senator Mccain" -- it's "Senator McCain" -- make sure the second "C" is capitalized.

    The reason why it is so important to be sure of your spelling when emailing, faxing or even hand-delivering a letter to them is that 1) if you cannot take the time to be sure of their correct name, then clearly they (more likely their staff) are less likely to take your requests for a meeting or consideration of the information you're offering and 2) it cheapens the entire idea of this.  

    We need to be firm and clear of our intent, but we also need to be respectful of the fact that minor errors like the misspelling of a name can come back to hurt us in the long run.

    Just something to consider when you are trying to get in touch with Senators McCain and Kyl.
  • The plan: 
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/World-against-SOPA/304313362953003?sk=info 

    first step:

    1._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy a under copyright item
    2._ No subscriber to this group will ever go to a cinema
    3._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy film on pay tv
    4._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy a book (paper or e-book)
    5._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy a news paper
    6._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy a magazine of any kind
    7._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy a CD
    8._ No subscriber to this group will ever buy a DVD
  • I just requested a meeting. Representative Kyl's office told me that I need to request a meeting in writing. Send letters to 

    Representative Kyl
    2200 E Camelback, Suite 120,
    Phoenix AZ 85016 

    You need to include the nature of the meeting in your meeting request. The letter should say (took this from above):

    For example: "Hi, my name is ________, I'm with Arizona for Internet freedom, and I'm calling to request a meeting with Senator _______ during the January recess.  The PROTECT IP vote is happening on January 24th, and I wanted the Senator to understand my concerns before the vote happens."

    There is still a *little* time to send off a letter to them if you don't have a fax machine. Good luck, everyone!!
  • Senator McCain responded to my email and I am wondering how to respond so as to let him know that the bills have other very slanted downsides to them. 
    Let me know how to respond to this email in an intelligent way.
    Thanks,
    Christopher Cody

    ****************************************************************************************************

    January 18, 2012

     

     

    Mr. Christopher Cody

    1855 E. Guadalupe Road A101-136

    Tempe, AZ 85283

     

    Dear Mr. Cody:

     

    Thank you for contacting me regarding Internet anti-piracy
    legislation, specifically the PROTECT IP Act and the Stop Online
    Piracy Act (SOPA). I appreciate hearing your views about these
    important pieces of legislation.

     

    As you know, online piracy is a major issue facing the American
    economy as more and more digital creations, such as music, movies,
    software, and books, are moved online. The Internet, which has
    delivered so many benefits to our economy, has unfortunately also
    allowed bad actors to steal and sell these stolen works. It is
    estimated that our economy loses more than $58 billion annually as a
    result of online piracy. As part of an effort to fight back against
    these losses, Congress has introduced two bills, the PROTECT IP Act in
    the Senate and SOPA in the House of Representatives, respectively.


    These bills are designed to help the government more effectively
    utilize legal tools that are already at our disposal to fight against
    online piracy and protect American intellectual property. If enacted,
    the legislation would allow the Department of Justice to notify a
    website owner that the government intends to pursue a court order for
    alleged illegal activities. Next, the court would have to determine
    whether the website has a significant use other than the selling of
    counterfeited goods. These basic protections are designed to provide
    due process protections to ensure legitimate websites are not at risk
    for inadvertent violations.

     

    The PROTECT IP Act was passed out of the Senate Committee on the
    Judiciary and SOPA has been referred to the House Committee on the
    Judiciary on October 26, 2011. Please rest assured that should these
    bills come to the Senate floor, I will keep your views in mind. Thank
    you again for sharing your thoughts on this important topic. Please
    feel free to contact me regarding this issue, or any other in the
    future.

     

     

    Sincerely,

    John McCain

    United States Senator

     

    JM/mv
  • @whereisamerica - This looks very much like a form letter, so you probably should spend too much time drafting up a highly-polished response. A couple of major points stand out, though:
    - PIPA/SOPA don't support existing law, or establish procedures that are more consistent with due process. Instead, the bills actually undermine existing legal avenues for addressing acts of copyright infringement. In particular, the bills make the "Safe Harbor" protections of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act obsolete. And those basic protections, however imperfect they may be, are what allowed sites like YouTube, Flickr, and Facebook to be created. Do we really want to pass bills that make it nearly impossible for any new web-based startups to be created?
    - PIPA/SOPA, even in their most-improved forms, are way too broad. They target entire sites, rather than individual pieces of content. If too many individual pieces of content on a site are declared to be "illegal," the entire site can be removed from the Internet - even if it also has a wide variety of other, valuable and legal uses.
  • @whereisamerica - I would also note something in my reply about his value in 'lost revenue' due to piracy; I would say that a download does not equate to a lost sale. When someone uploads a copy of something the original must still be purchased, it is just then copied. Obviously this idea can be elaborated upon, but you get the idea.
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