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  • @Alex - if there is room, count me in. I'm free that afternoon, in Austin, & would love to attend. I can meet Thursday or Friday ahead of time as well. pat -at- slash25 dot com
  • I don't have any expertise on the issue, but if there's any room left I'd like to go. I'll probably be in Austin by Thursday evening
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    @Derek4Real - Seriously? I'm eager to start a good/fun/tiring/stressing career in Law and Criminal Justice already... even if the road to it and with it will get me annoyed... and the bills... and money...! 
     And adults older than me don't know this? Wasn't this in that popular newspaper 'Times" or something like that? I found this out from a friend since I don't get any newspaper in my middle-of-nowhere. 
    If you're able, Can you pass the message to our lovely senators that Kids of Texas greatly disagree with this proposed Bill? We learn, and express ourselves as an individual through the internet. Knowledge, Social, Creativity.  It's pretty much the future in communication and expression in human Society.
    Plus, my friend told me that America's economy will be devastated more by people losing their jobs, advertising their businesses and such if this Bill is to pass. That true? (Her mom advertises business through Google).
    (P.S. Spreading the word to friends and teacher/adults/family) They gotta know if there are not many who know about this.)
  • I would love to do whatever I can to help. I am a local writer, and if anything, I can offer that. If there is anyone in the technical field that will be attending and is afraid of public speaking, I am more than willing to assist them in collecting their thoughts on paper.

  • edited January 2012
    @ben, @pat_ramsey, @alex Don't be afraid of having "too many" people! You can always use backups, and even if more people show up than can fit in the meeting room, the extras can always wait outside - and it won't hurt to make that fact obvious to the staffers. (Obviously, if it's a matter of deciding whether or not to take a 100-mile roadtrip, it might make less sense for you to come as an extra).

    @KokopelliMia Well, if this bill does nothing else, it seems *very* likely to stifle innovation: small sites based on user-contributions cannot possibly hope to undertake the kind of exhaustive self-monitoring required to fully protect themselves from the threat of being pulled off-line by one angry (and/or unscrupulous) content holders, and so many may decide that it's not worth setting up shop to begin with. And since, as you say, the world economy is becoming increasingly information-based... yup, I'd say this bill could have a pretty nasty economic impact.

  • @pat_ramsey @ben - I think we're set on attendees but if anyone drops out I can let you know.

    Also, @ExpertDan and I met with EFF-Austin this evening and it's looking like they (in conjunction with anyone here) might put on an event next week that would serve as a kind of "office hours" for folks to come by and ask questions/learn more about the pending legislation and what can be done to oppose it/make your feelings known.

    When details of that become more clear I'll pass that info along.

    Also @ExpertDan had a great suggestion.  If anyone wishes to write a personal letter or statement about their concerns with PIPA/SOPA and how it affects you and your livelihood, we can collect those and deliver them at the meeting.  To that end, perhaps @FBLorenDiTemps can help with folks who don't feel like they are strong writers?  We don't have a ton of time but it's just a thought....
  • edited January 2012
    @Alex I have already posted on my FB collecting stories from many of my friends about their experiences. I really hope that this could be useful. If anyone wishes to send me their thoughts, send them to EtwasS@yahoo.com or message me @ Facebook.com/neues.ding .

    "This is extremely important people! I know many of my friends realise what the internet has done for peoples around the world, because they are around the world. As for my American counterparts, the internet has started revolutions. It has completely changed people's lives. The ability to communicate, and protest on a mass scale to people who would otherwise be unknowing is so much more important than the financial gain of certain billion dollar corporations. I know most of you no longer watch the news on television because it is so warped. You don't listen to major radio stations, because they are so twisted. The internet has opened up doors of independent communication, free thought, and uncensored protest. Continue this tradition and contact your local congressmen. Fight it. Keep internet social media alive. Keep in touch."

    "If any of my friends, not necessarily American, can send me messages telling them how uncensored internet communication has effected their lives in a positive way, with permission for me to rewrite it, it would be extremely helpful, and the whole world may thank you."

    I am not at all a professional in any technical field, but I have been using IRC for the past 13 years on some of the most major networks as a services administrator, and have been using it to get freelance technical writing jobs. It would sadden me deeply to see the end of IRC as we know it. The stance that most major networks use on piracy is that they are not liable. The operators and administrators cannot punish anyone, for anything illegal, because if they do, they then are liable for the actions of all users. Some of these networks have 300,000 users on only a handful of servers, each with a handful of operators. This would mean the END of IRC. It could mean the end of my career as a technical writer and translator. It maybe not sound very important, but IRC has a prevalent history as one of the first forms of internet social media. It was used to report information about the Soviet coup d'etat attempt in 1991. The internet should be open to all people, everywhere, at all times. We have invaded countries for a lot less.  

    I witnessed a nation who's access to social media was severed undergo a revolution. We Americans aided in the process of freeing Tunisia, --because as Americans we firmly believe in a freedom of speech and human rights. This was only a YEAR ago. Has everyone forgotten? There was a civil war in Libya, which just ended a couple months ago. Social media played an extensive role in the organization of people opposed to the then current regime. 

    Wikipedia it while it still exists. Passing these acts would be a complete and utter hypocrisy. Who will be there to free us from ourselves? Information is not owned by China. It is not owned by Russia. It is not owned by Tunisia, or Libya, and WE certainly do NOT own the internet or the many people who inhabit it.

    Anyway, that's just my personal objections. Sorry about the lingering post. It's kind of emotional for me.
  • I am interested in attending the meeting with Senator Cornyn on 1/13.  Please let me know if there is an open seat.  I've worked on the Internet since the 1980's (NSFNET) and run a small Internet services company in Austin and code for another local firm.  Without a doubt, this bill is a serious threat to the openness and stability of the Internet.
  • living out in the country  and living on a limited income  i cant really get anywhere but i can address this issue from a number of directions one as a computer repairman/computer forensics student ,  two as a musician ,three as a American that would like to see bills like this follow due process ,the constitution and the bill of rights ,ive already sent senator cronyn a automated email and  a more personal one  i borrowed  some text as it raised some of the very points i was trying to make ill paste it here

    ear Senator
    i have already sent an automated email but feel a more personal letter is in order , as a natural born us citizen and resident of Texas i urge you to speak out against the following bills for the following reasons

    There are several reasons that SOPA, PIPA, and S.978 should not get passed:

    1) It should not be a felony to upload anyone singing a pop song on YouTube.
    2) MANY innocent people could be going to jail.
    3) A lot of popular websites could get taken down. (e.g. YouTube, Google, Facebook, Flickr, etc.)
    4) We need our Internet freedom! After all, this IS America, not China.
    5) The bills are TOO broad and too vague.
    6) People deem them “the worst piece(s) of IP legislation.”

    there are many more reasons that for times sake i wont list here but there are a lot of people and company's speaking out against this bill , the most important objection i have to this bill  is that it follows  No due process that i can see , the language is so broad  and vague  that its left open for abuse of power, if a bill like this was created  in accordance  of the constitution and bill of rights id gladly support it as long as it is clear and concise in its objectives and implementation one more important objection which is why i put the topic under labor  is that it would kill jobs in many sectors ,with our economy as it has been we as a country cannot afford  that , in closing i thank you for you taking the time to read this and wish you well 
    God Bless
    Patrick Emry

    i cant get anywhere to a meeting but would be glad to put a statement together that will expand upon the  letter a little bit  with the help of a writer  and  be glad to take the time to  deliver it via phone at the meeting  email me at  emry.patrick@gmail.com  if your interested
  • @Alex - letters are a great idea! Thanks for suggesting that. I'd encourage anyone who's interested in the meeting, but can't attend to message Alex with a letter about PIPA.

    @austican - it might not hurt for you to request a meeting with either Cornyn or Hutchinson, especially given your background. You might want to wait until after Alex's meeting with Cornyn to do this.
  • edited January 2012
    I can guarantee I can go if you guys think I can help. I work within walking distance to the Capitol in Austin. I run the Leaky Wiki, www.theleakywiki.com. It's a political parody site. So freedom of speech, and the ability to use the names of public figures (which is legal) is of great importance to me. I'm also in a coworking facility down here so there are tech geniuses all around me. Maybe I can grab one of the smarter ones. :)
    For what it's worth, I went to UT and have an MBA, so if someone has the numbers of the SXSW we could put together a very compelling case of how much the city/state/country would lose from this one conference alone. SOPA supporters keep citing that the internet is killing American jobs. We all know that it's also one of the main ways we create them.
    So, numbers on SXSW would be concrete evidence that this bill would wipe out a lot of the progress we've made.

    Let me know if you guys can use the help. I can be there for sure if you want me along.

    Patrick
  • I'm in Houston and unable to get to Austin or Dallas. Is there somewhere else I can go or something I can do, besides post things on twitter and facebook, to keep SOPA/PIPA from being passed.
  • I'd like to add that the team that winds up going to this meeting should have a well thought way of getting your message across. There is a lot of emotion tied up in this whole thing. The team should meet before hand, find out how much time they will have with the Senator, and plan accordingly. Otherwise the meeting could get off track and the message we want to send will never get through.
  • well i have said all i can say for now, i'm doing research reading the text of the bills so i can point out key phrases and will be writing a letter ,in regards to that @Alex check your messages
  • Update: One of the major take-aways from the briefing call with Public Knowledge was that you don't have to set up a formal meeting to come in and talk to someone in a Senator's local office - you can just show up! So anyone who can't make it to the meeting: just find the location of Cornyn/Hutchinson's closest office, recruit a friend or two, and get in there!
  • Folks - for those that really wanted to attend the meeting, why not work to set up another one?  No one as yet that I'm aware of, has set anything up with Sen. Hutchison or her office.

    SOPA is also working it's way through the House so contacting Reps would also be beneficial in my opinion.

    Both Texas Senators have offices all over Texas (Cornyn has 6 spread throughout Texas, not sure about KBH)

    I guess what I'm saying is just because we have 7 attendees for the meeting on Friday - that doesn't mean you can't be heard!  A lot of people are looking at Friday as THE meeting but it's really just one I happened to set up after discovering this forum.  

    The more meetings that can be scheduled and the more people who organize, the better.  In fact one meeting with 7 concerned citizens probably won't make near the impact as meetings all over the State with 10X that number of citizens...that's my two cents anyway.
  • @Alex Well said, and universally seconded. Let's get more meetings going!
  • So the friday meeting is filled up? Move to the next one?
  • How setting up a teleconference into the meeting on Friday?  I'm stuck in Dallas but make my living helping them with websites and other digital media. 

    I'm sure that it would be pretty easy to set up a telecon; in fact, most of the Internet based teleconferencing companies stand to lose a lot of business from start-ups that won't happen if the PIPA goes through.

    I was just at a Joomla! website creation software user's group meeting in North Dallas, and everyone there is concerned that small businesses trying to use the internet will be at grave risk if this bill goes through.

    One company, who provide an Internet domain name service, could be shut down completely if one user of one subdomain is accused of having a link to a potentially infringing site.

  • @Mike_Cravens REJOICE! Reddit has come through for folks in Dallas: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/oe3mf/these_61_senators_are_refusing_to_meet_with_their/c3gkalg

    If you have a Reddit account PLEASE message the poster and ask WHAT DAY his meeting is scheduled for! We'll create a Facebook event for it!
  • TUESDAY, 1/17, 2pm at Sen. Hutchison's Dallas office!!!
  • From my understanding of this legislation government will be able to shut down any site at will for any type of copyright infringement.  Meaning for facebook you will not even be able to post a photo of any copyrighted material which is everywhere for advertisement purpose.  Or for tweeter you will not even be able to say copyrighted material such as a quote from any movie "WE THE PEOPLE" zap instant ban. This is wrong in any form.  I have seen sites that do censorship as a matter of keeping their lawyers happy.  But I do not go to those sites much because it is nearly impossible to say a well thought out statement without having half of what I have said being starred out by the censors.  Honestly they are trying to take away our freedoms one word at a time.  Do not let government have this hold over us.  It will cause too much of an upheaval for many people for the fact that many people have not gotten much more education than the television or movies.  Thus reducing their ability to input their own twist to an original idea, thought, or expression.  Allowing this bill and subsequent bills of this nature will alienate much of the population of the world.  THIS IS MY TAKE AND YOU CAN TAKE IT HOWEVER YOU LIKE BUT ITS MINE!!!!!!!! 
  • My experience in communicating with both of our senators here in TX is that they are both extremely conservative, and heavily aligned with the "religious right".  I support any effort you folks are putting forward to try to sway them, but I'm not optimistic.  They aren't likely to be affected by arguments based on freedom of expression or creative license, but you may find some success in arguments which revolve around economic impacts this bill will have.  Money seems to be the only thing these senators are interested in protecting.  They certainly don't care about civil rights in my experience.  So, focus on the financial angle.  Best of luck, and kudos for fighting the good fight against censorship!
  • @ahughes1122 - we hear you, but we think you're going to be pleasantly surprised by an announcement thats going to be made any minute now!

    @Alex - We're guessing you're in your meeting now! Hope its going well!!! Let us know how it went!
  • edited January 2012
    Meeting went pretty well!  Our group was joined by about 4-5 others who had been rallied via Reddit (I think anyway, didn't get a chance to chat with all of them afterwards)

    We tele-conferenced with a counsel from Sen. Cornyn's Judiciary Staff.  I thought our group did an excellent job of outlining the major concerns.  After hearing our concerns, the DC staffer said that the Senator was "evaluating" his position on the Bill.  This, to me, was already good news since Sen. Cornyn serves on the Senate Judiciary Committee which had unanimously voted this out of committee.

    We had a nice dialog for about half an hour.  The DC staffer went out of his way to say this kind of constituent meeting really helps and thanked us for our involvement.  At this point, we were informed that the Senator had just joined with 5 other GOP Senators and sent a letter to Harry Reid asking him to delay the cloture vote!

    This is a pretty major win.  But I think it's important to not think the fight is over. Please continue to call your representatives and stay involved and current with the issue.  Reports in the news already have Sen. Reid ignoring the call for more time and that he may go ahead with the cloture vote anyway the week of 1/23.  So continue to make your feelings about these Bills known!  If the vote happens anyway but yet 60 Senators don't vote for cloture, there are Senators such as Wyden who have promised to filibuster this thing.  Time is definitely our ally especially in an election year.

    One thing this whole experience has taught me is that we do still have the ability to communicate with our elected officials.  We just have to avail ourselves of that opportunity when we feel we have something to say.  So hopefully others can be inspired to get more involved with the legislative process.  Schedule meetings, make calls....I do believe that has 10X the weight than tweets or emails.  Ordinary folks can be heard, we just have to flex our muscle via our sheer numbers and hope that balances out the monied special interests.  If there's one thing that politicians love more than campaign contributions it's winning elections and we still cast the votes.  They do work for us...always keep that in mind!
  • edited January 2012
    I am emailing Senator Hutchison requesting a group meeting.  I will let you all know what happens. 
  • edited January 2012
    Email Response from Senator Hutchison's office this morning. 

    Dear Friend:

         Thank you
    for contacting me regarding S. 968, the PROTECT IP Act.  I welcome your
    thoughts and comments.

         Senator
    Patrick Leahy (D-VT) introduced the PROTECT IP Act on May 12, 2011.  The
    legislation is in response to concerns about online copyright infringement and
    sale of counterfeit goods.  The bill would allow the Justice Department to
    seek federal court injunctions to halt online promotion of illegal activities.

          I believe
    copyright protection is a foundation for innovation.  Intellectual
    property is the creative core of the information age.  Patent and
    intellectual property ownership laws offer needed protection for the economic
    and other interests of inventors, entrepreneurs, performers, and other creative
    thinkers.  These protections are also important to future growth and
    employment in important U.S. industries.

         
    Protecting intellectual property is more challenging than ever before.
     Among other things, high speed broadband enables access to the entire
    catalog of movies, music, books, television, and technology.

          Online
    promotion of counterfeit goods by foreign entities is also a growing concern.
     How to protect copyright, patent, and intellectual property rights — and
    do so without infringing on consumers’ legitimate interests — requires dealing
    with a complex series of problems.

          The
    PROTECT IP Act has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
     Although I am not a member of that committee, please be assured that I
    will keep your views in mind should this bill or related legislation be
    reported for action by the full Senate.

          I
    appreciate hearing from you, and I hope that you will not hesitate to contact
    me on any issue that is important to you.

     

    Sincerely,

    Kay Bailey Hutchison

    United States Senator

     

    284 Russell Senate Office Building

    Washington, DC  20510

    202-224-5922 (tel)

    202-224-0776 (fax)

    http://hutchison.senate.gov

     

    PLEASE DO NOT REPLY to this
    message as this mailbox is only for the delivery of outbound messages, and is
    not monitored for replies.  Due to the volume of mail Senator Hutchison
    receives, she requests that all email messages be sent through the contact form
    found on her website at http://hutchison.senate.gov/?p=email_kay
    .


    If you would like more information
    about issues pending before the Senate, please visit the Senator's website at http://hutchison.senate.gov .  You
    will find articles, floor statements, press releases, and weekly columns on
    current events.

     

    Thank you.
  • Personally, There are at least 100 good reasons not to pass this much too vague and broad sweeping legislation. At the very heart of my arguments is that if the bill is intended to thwart or stop sale of counterfeit goods and copyright infringement then why is not DESIGNED or WRITTEN in such a manner? This bill will certainly have the Great Firewall of China effect but in my opinion the single most important overlooked point is that obviously droves of Americans are opposed to this legislation for multitudes of reasons. 

    Our government officials are elected to represent THE PEOPLE. Not themselves or lobbyists or whomever sends the biggest campaign contribution. The people are speaking and they are doing so quite loudly. These bills must be stopped immediately as the people are singing in unison, and we must stop censorship in all forms, NOT condone it. If our Senate and Representatives vote in favor of of the SOPA/Protect IP legislation, they are desecrating the very foundation of the Constitution in that our elected leaders have failed to represent the people's voice by ignoring the voices of the very people for whom they serve.

    -R
  • My question is can we set up teleconferences too my cell phone can  have 5 people on the line at once, anyone of at@t can  it might not have the same impact as being in person but it might help that much more what do yall think?
  • I'm about to be 50. And I could think of no better way to celebrate than to be in alignment with people who are so willing to give time and ENERGY, as was I, in the 80's. I wish to Thank You all and "keep the firelight burning"
  • I sent an email to my Representative - John Carter, R - in the Temple/Fort Hood area, a couple of weeks ago.  His reply looks like a form letter and will give you an idea of the standard points you're going to encounter...

    Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about the Stop Online Piracy Act.  I appreciate hearing your thoughts about online intellectual property, and I am honored to be your Representative in Congress.

    As you may know, H.R. 3261 the Stop Online Piracy Act was recently introduced by Rep. Lamar Smith, where it was referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.  Companion legislation in the Senate, S. 968, the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011 (PROTECT-IP) was introduced by Senator Patrick Leahy and is pending a vote on the Senate floor.

    This legislation would give the federal government expanded authority to pursue websites which are registered and operate in foreign countries that provide pirated or counterfeit content. These foreign "rouge sites" sell or distribute subject matter protected by federal Intellectual Property (IP) laws, causing businesses to lose billions of dollars in annual lost revenue.  Industries supported by intellectual property laws generate as much as 6% of the U.S. gross national product and provide a significant amount of jobs for Americans.

    It is important to note that this legislation would only affect websites that operate from foreign servers, not U.S. based websites, as there are already laws in place to address this issue domestically.  The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is the agency charged with monitoring copyright infringement on the Internet domestically.  Between June 30, 2010 and February 14, 2011 ICE seized 112 domain names associated with Internet piracy.  Domain name registrars redirect traffic from the seized domain to a government website explaining that the domain name has been seized by ICE pursuant to a warrant issued by a federal court; however, the sites remain accessible through their IP addresses.

    Concerns have been raised about the impact of this legislation on free speech and the technical integrity of the Internet.  These are legitimate concerns, and I look forward to working with my colleagues on the House Committee on the Judiciary to ensure that the needs of copyright protection are balanced with the First Amendment Rights of Americans.

    Although this legislation is still pending in the House Committee on the Judiciary, you can rest assured that I will keep your concerns in mind should this legislation arrive on the House floor.  Thank you again for your concern about this important issue, and please do not hesitate to let me know if I may be of additional assistance in the future.

    ...Carter is a Co-Sponsor with Lamar Smith.
  • I'm down for the Dallas Meeting
  • Trying to Schedule a Mtg. in Houston, TX, 5300 Memorial Dr. #980 with Cornyn Staffers
    I called his office at 713-572-3337 spoke to a Staff Assistant named Tray. I gave his the spiel then pushed for a meeting before Jan. 20th. I might, might get one tomorrow or Friday morning. Email me if you're in or get a meeting yourself and need help deyadira_a@hotmail.com
  • Also called Sen, Hutchison's Office at 713-653-3456 at 1919 Smith #800 spoke to staff assistant Thomas Hatch to schedule a meeting, he tells me both the Regional Director Jason Fuller and Deputy Director Albert Cheng will be out for the next two days and scheduled to return on Monday, Jan. 23 (Protect IP vote is Jan.24) I did leave a message for both. The office is NOT closed and they are only taking calls. ~deyadira_a@hotmail.com
  • edited January 2012
    Keep it up, everyone! We've had a huge impact over the past 24 hours, and we need to use that momentum to reach those Senators (like Hutchison) who aren't responding to their constituents' concerns. Call, email, fax, and (optimally) go to your Senators' local offices and ask for meetings, preferably under the banner of "Texas for Internet Freedom." That'll let the Senators' staffs know that there are a lot of you out there, that you're all working together, and that they therefore cannot possibly hope to ignore you. Stay strong out there - we're making progress!
  • I just followed up with Tray from Cornyn's office, looks like I'm waiting on a call from State Press Secretary Jessica Stealin? from Sen. Cornyn's Office. Let's see if we get a meeting for tomorrow morning. IF we do score a meeting, we can stop by Hutchison's office??
  • Talked to Jessica in Cornyn's office yesterday and stressed our desire to have meeting this week. She is supposed to call me back today but said this week in Dallas was not possible. She said he's in Austin the rest of the week. Haven't heard back from anyone yet.
  • Here's the plan, since I've called Tray and Thomas from both offices here in Houston and can't seem to schedule a meeting for tomorrow morning how about we stop by to hand in some letters. Cory Katel?, Intern for Cornyn's office and Thomas Hatch?, Staff Assistant of Hutchison's both tell me someone will be in. Email me if you'd like to tag along deyadira_a@hotmail.com and here's the info. again for their offices if you'd like to do it alone Sen. Hutchison, 1919 Smith St. Suite 800 and Sen. Cornyn, 5300 Memorial Dr., Suite 980
  • No Meeting but I did get an email from Cornyn's Office:

    Nice speaking with you, Deyadira. Below is the statement the Senator issued yesterday.

    Thanks!

     

    Jessica Sandlin
    Texas Press Secretary

    U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas

     

     

    Cornyn: PIPA Deserves a More Thoughtful Process

    “Texans Have Soundly Rejected the ‘Pass Now, Learn Later’ Approach”

    AUSTIN — U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, released the following statement today on S. 968, the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA):

    “Texans have soundly rejected the ‘pass now, learn later’ approach that we saw with Obamacare, and the potential impact of this legislation is too far-reaching to ram it through Congress in such an abrupt way.

    “Stealing content is theft, plain and simple, but concerns about the internet and free speech necessitate a more thoughtful, deliberative process.”

    Last week Sen. Cornyn joined Republicans on the Judiciary Committee in sending a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) requesting him to delay consideration of S. 968 so that concerns with the proposed legislation can be addressed.

    Senator Cornyn serves on the Finance, Judiciary, Armed Services and Budget Committees.  He serves as the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee’s Immigration, Refugees and Border Security subcommittee. He served previously as Texas Attorney General, Texas Supreme Court Justice, and Bexar County District Judge.

  • edited January 2012
    I've watched this and I totally freaked out. These bills haven't even been passed yet, and the companies supporting them (Like CBS) are total hypocrites in this entire thing! 
    The U.S. government is trying to take power and have "slave labor" with not just us U.S. citizens, but also people around the world. It's said that about 25% of Internet users will be either sued or arrested. That's big.

    I'm have to say this- America and our own Government and our own big time media is greedy and doesn't seem to care that they're destroying millions of lives.
    Heard of the UK case of a college student just sending a link to a friend? Going to be imported, taken away from his country to face trial in the United States.
    Our tourism is going low now from recent events done by America. This SOPA and PIPA are just a step by our government and media to get money. (that use  non legal copyrighted material- even wants you to download their noncopyrighted material,  and we can't sue them because they are "big time millions'. Meaning they are rich, have ties with our government) Start getting successful, they bring you down.

    I'm really losing my respect for my own Nation and it's not even funny.
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